Goodyear Wrangler Kevlar 265/70r16 Toyota Trd Offroad Review

02-21-2019, 11:11 PM	#iii
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Senior Fellow member	Looks interesting but if it is one of those tires where to become the total benefits you lot take to become to E load, then...not so interesting at all. The question for me would be how it compares to the better P-metric ATs. If these have kevlar in the sidewall in P-metric, then that would be a very interesting proposition. Why don't yous email them and ask that question? I would similar to know the answer, as well. If they tin can argue convincingly that this is the strongest P-metric tire on the marketplace in terms of sidewall puncture resistance then I could be interested equally well, down the road. __________________ 2018 TRD OP non-kdss, well armored, well used (6112s/650lb at 1.25"-1.5" lift, 8100 rear with Bilstein B12 1.five" springs, Mickey Thompson ATZ P3 LTE 265 70 17, RCI ready of front end 3/16 skids, Shrockworks step sliders and 3/sixteen steel gas tank slip, C4Fab rear diff skid, Rockmen rear LCAs, Total Anarchy rear LCA bracket skids, Diode Dynamics SS3 white fog lights).
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02-22-2019, 08:xi AM	#4
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Aristocracy Member	Quote: Originally Posted by MAST4R Looks interesting but if information technology is one of those tires where to get the full benefits you accept to go to E load, then...not so interesting at all. The question for me would be how it compares to the improve P-metric ATs. If these have kevlar in the sidewall in P-metric, and then that would exist a very interesting proposition. Why don't you email them and ask that question? I would like to know the answer, too. If they tin can argue convincingly that this is the strongest P-metric tire on the market in terms of sidewall puncture resistance then I could be interested too, down the route. Expert thought. I will emailed them. Only i think that ALL GY AT Adventure has Kevlar sidewall. But the LT has thicker (or more than) layers of Kevlar from what i read. EDIT: Wrangler(R) All-Terrain Adventure With Kevlar(R) Tires | Goodyear Tires So, P-metric has 1 layer of Kevlar. LT has TWO layers + 30% more than steel. And i did electronic mail them with other questions...and then will postal service here in one case i accept respond. __________________ My 2019 Land Cruiser 2022 Honda Ridgeline RTL-E 2015 Acura MDX with SH-AWD Lets Become Brandon! Concluding edited by Thai; 02-22-2019 at 08:24 AM.
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02-22-2019, 01:44 PM	#v
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Elite Fellow member	While i wait for Goodyear email response, i found this on TireRack regarding this tire: �The tire's internal structure includes twin, high-tensile steel belts reinforced past a spirally wrapped layer of next-generation DuPont Kevlar* cord to combine force with comfort (Pro-Grade belts feature thicker steel cords reinforced by two layers of spirally wrapped DuPont Kevlar cord).� __________________ My 2019 Land Cruiser 2022 Honda Ridgeline RTL-E 2015 Acura MDX with SH-AWD Lets Go Brandon!
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02-22-2019, 08:03 PM	#half-dozen
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Senior Member	Quote: Originally Posted by Thai Good idea. I will emailed them. But i think that ALL GY AT Take a chance has Kevlar sidewall. But the LT has thicker (or more) layers of Kevlar from what i read. EDIT: Wrangler(R) All-Terrain Adventure With Kevlar(R) Tires | Goodyear Tires And so, P-metric has I layer of Kevlar. LT has Ii layers + 30% more than steel. And i did email them with other questions...so volition mail here once i have answer. Quote: Originally Posted by Thai While i await for Goodyear email response, i found this on TireRack regarding this tire: "The tire'south internal structure includes twin, loftier-tensile steel belts reinforced past a spirally wrapped layer of next-generation DuPont Kevlar* cord to combine force with comfort (Pro-Class belts feature thicker steel cords reinforced by ii layers of spirally wrapped DuPont Kevlar cord)." That's dandy that you wrote them, thanks! I am certain the info you mention higher up applies to the tread plies since steel is not used in the sidewall. The two kevlar plies will also apply to the tread. I at present had time to read and it seems that the kevlar ply is limited to the tread area although they practise argue they are using something to raise the sidewalls as well: "While nosotros didn't get a adventure to truly challenge the off-route capabilities of the Kevlar-reinforced treads or Durawall Technology sidewall prophylactic, by feel confirms both contribute to the tire'due south toughness and strength." https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=175 I besides read through the Tire Rack consumer reviews...lots of ups and downs and nada really specific enough to provide a practiced idea but there is no mass enchantment with the kevlar, that'due south for certain. The ane thing I noticed at a glance is that folks with full-time 4x4 seem happier than others. Evidently some Tacomas had them as oem and their owners hated the tires but I think oem tires tend to be lower form than the aftermarket versions of the same model. If the 1 guy who claims his trucks at work accept such tires and see lots of flats is right, and then that'south bad for sure, simply equally is it is just a statement. __________________ 2018 TRD OP non-kdss, well armored, well used (6112s/650lb at i.25"-1.v" elevator, 8100 rear with Bilstein B12 ane.five" springs, Mickey Thompson ATZ P3 LTE 265 lxx 17, RCI prepare of front three/16 skids, Shrockworks step sliders and 3/xvi steel gas tank skid, C4Fab rear diff skid, Rockmen rear LCAs, Full Chaos rear LCA bracket skids, Diode Dynamics SS3 white fog lights). Terminal edited by MAST4R; 02-23-2019 at 01:26 AM.
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02-25-2019, 02:15 PM	#seven
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Elite Member	Unfortunately, Goodyear sent me an electronic mail to call them with any questions. Useless. Oh well. __________________ My 2019 Land Cruiser 2022 Honda Ridgeline RTL-Due east 2015 Acura MDX with SH-AWD Lets Become Brandon!
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03-06-2019, 08:08 AM	#eight
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Elite Member	Quote: Originally Posted past MAST4R I am sure the info you mention in a higher place applies to the tread plies since steel is non used in the sidewall. The 2 kevlar plies will besides apply to the tread. I at present had time to read and information technology seems that the kevlar ply is limited to the tread expanse although they practice argue they are using something to enhance the sidewalls as well: "While we didn't get a chance to truly challenge the off-road capabilities of the Kevlar-reinforced treads or Durawall Applied science sidewall rubber, past experience confirms both contribute to the tire's toughness and force." https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=175 I besides read through the Tire Rack consumer reviews...lots of ups and downs and aught really specific plenty to provide a good idea but in that location is no mass enchantment with the kevlar, that's for sure. The one thing I noticed at a glance is that folks with total-time 4x4 seem happier than others. Apparently some Tacomas had them as oem and their owners hated the tires just I remember oem tires tend to be lower class than the aftermarket versions of the same model. If the one guy who claims his trucks at piece of work have such tires and see lots of flats is correct, then that'due south bad for sure, but as is it is simply a statement. I merely read your edited comments. That is actually good news i think. The tread surface area protection via steel cords & Kevlar is swell and all but i want stiff sidewall. Earlier your comment, i idea that P-metric has 1 layer of Kevlar compound in the sidewall while LT has 2 layers. IF y'all're correct (and i think that you are), and then all GY AT Chance tires accept the Same sidewall, called Durawall technology. This ways that sidewall forcefulness is same for P- and LT tires. As for Tirerack comments, i always take them with a grain of common salt. From personal experience in past, commenters opinions are often times unlike from my real life experience with respective tires. I trust more than the extensive reviews, as the links to a higher place show. __________________ My 2019 Country Cruiser 2022 Honda Ridgeline RTL-East 2015 Acura MDX with SH-AWD Lets Go Brandon!
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03-07-2019, 08:48 PM	#ix
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Senior Fellow member	Quote: Originally Posted by Thai I only read your edited comments. That is actually good news i call back. The tread surface area protection via steel cords & Kevlar is bully and all but i want stiff sidewall. Before your annotate, i thought that P-metric has one layer of Kevlar chemical compound in the sidewall while LT has 2 layers. IF you lot're right (and i think that you are), then all GY AT Take chances tires take the Same sidewall, called Durawall engineering science. This means that sidewall strength is same for P- and LT tires. As for Tirerack comments, i always take them with a grain of table salt. From personal experience in by, commenters opinions are ofttimes times different from my real life experience with respective tires. I trust more the extensive reviews, as the links higher up prove. Yep, the tire rack comments are useful in aggregate for road performance. Otherwise you have to read through and observe someone who is trustworthy, which is time consuming and may non happen since it is of import that the person also have a similar vehicle. If I were y'all, I would only go for the Wildpeaks. They are not bad on and off road. I have put nearly 200 miles of harsh AZ terrain on 4x4 trails and rough dirt roads at 33 psi since I had a sidewall failure (when aired downwards a month ago) and I take had no issues. That'southward a total of 1750 off-pavement miles with one failure when aired down and one minor puncture at street pressures. There is no way in that location is anything on the Due east Coast that comes close to the Sonoran Desert conditions. And I am talking long days in the desert, too: lx+ miles, 72 miles, 48 miles, 63 miles. This ways a diverseness of speeds likewise. Just don't air them down. I took pictures of the tires over rocks when parked: there is plenty of flex at 33 psi. Of grade, if you suddenly make up one's mind yous desire to tackle serious obstacles made of sharp rocks that are in the midst of narrow shelf climbs, then an MT or KO2 would exist the better choice. That's the point at which on road performance becomes irrelevant due to the risks associated with individual, dangerous spots where a burst tire tin can mean large issues. __________________ 2018 TRD OP not-kdss, well armored, well used (6112s/650lb at ane.25"-1.v" elevator, 8100 rear with Bilstein B12 1.5" springs, Mickey Thompson ATZ P3 LTE 265 seventy 17, RCI gear up of front 3/sixteen skids, Shrockworks step sliders and iii/sixteen steel gas tank skid, C4Fab rear diff skid, Rockmen rear LCAs, Total Chaos rear LCA bracket skids, Diode Dynamics SS3 white fog lights). Last edited by MAST4R; 03-07-2019 at 08:57 PM.
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03-07-2019, 10:08 PM	#x
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Elite Member	Quote: Originally Posted by MAST4R Yes, the tire rack comments are useful in aggregate for road operation. Otherwise you have to read through and find someone who is trustworthy, which is time consuming and may not happen since information technology is important that the person also have a like vehicle. If I were you lot, I would merely go for the Wildpeaks. They are not bad on and off road. I have put most 200 miles of harsh AZ terrain on 4x4 trails and rough dirt roads at 33 psi since I had a sidewall failure (when aired down a month ago) and I have had no issues. That's a total of 1750 off-pavement miles with one failure when aired downward and 1 small-scale puncture at street pressures. There is no way there is annihilation on the East Declension that comes close to the Sonoran Desert conditions. And I am talking long days in the desert, likewise: 60+ miles, 72 miles, 48 miles, 63 miles. This means a diversity of speeds as well. Only don't air them downwardly. I took pictures of the tires over rocks when parked: in that location is enough of flex at 33 psi. Of course, if you suddenly decide you desire to tackle serious obstacles made of sharp rocks that are in the midst of narrow shelf climbs, so an MT or KO2 would exist the meliorate choice. That's the signal at which on road performance becomes irrelevant due to the risks associated with individual, dangerous spots where a burst tire tin hateful large issues. Your sidewall failure with the Wildpeak is absolutely my worst fear for tires while off-roading. Makes the tires absolutely useless and irreparable. I do like to air downward if i had to. The Goodyear sidewall is 2nd but to BFG KO2... https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum...6&d=1497265431 And so i see from the other thread how even the Michelin Defender tin can be aired downwardly also without sidewall failure. But given everything, i remember that i volition become with either GY or Michelin. I do think GY has stronger sidewall...only Michelin probably be better on fuel economic system. __________________ My 2019 Country Cruiser 2022 Honda Ridgeline RTL-E 2015 Acura MDX with SH-AWD Lets Become Brandon!
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03-07-2019, ten:20 PM	#eleven
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Senior Member	You can safely bet that those Defenders have not seen even a fraction of what my Wildpeaks have. How many people have 1750 clay miles in 3 states in 12 months? Thats 7 hard, many moderate and 69 total trails. Dont accept my listing on my telephone At that place is cypher need to air downwardly P metric tires except in deep sand. In that location is no way the Defenders can match the Wildpeak offroad but I am sure they are fine for infrequent utilise. Ultimately, tires are like shoes, there are a lot of subjective factors, likewise. __________________ 2018 TRD OP non-kdss, well armored, well used (6112s/650lb at one.25"-1.five" lift, 8100 rear with Bilstein B12 1.5" springs, Mickey Thompson ATZ P3 LTE 265 70 17, RCI set of front three/sixteen skids, Shrockworks stride sliders and three/xvi steel gas tank skid, C4Fab rear diff sideslip, Rockmen rear LCAs, Total Chaos rear LCA bracket skids, Diode Dynamics SS3 white fog lights).
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03-31-2019, 10:46 AM	#12
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Aristocracy Member	More info that i simply found on this tire: https://preview.thenewsmarket.com/Pr...ets/476910.pdf A function of information technology is quite interesting: "Goodyear engineers optimized the tread blueprint for an even pressure distribution beyond the footprint, resulting in excellent mileage and great on-route functioning. DEKRA test results reveal that the Wrangler All-Terrain Risk has, on average, a 37% better mileage performance than other tested tires." Footnote regarding higher up statement: Driven on front end and rear axle, compared to the boilerplate operation of 3 competitor designs in SUV/ 4x4 segment (Bridgestone Dueler A/T, Dunlop GrandTrek AT3, General Grabber A/T). Tested by Dekra in Dec 2016 past order of Goodyear. Boosted footnote regarding same DEKRA testing: Driven on a front end and rear axle, compared to the average performance of iii competitor designs in SUV/ iv�4 segment. Tested by Dekra in December 2016 past order of Goodyear. Examination Auto Toyota Hilux two.4- iv�four, tyre size 265/65 R17 112T/S. Test location: Dekra Testing Center (FP01B), France. Report/Test ref. 16CPB34-389, Vesture limit = 1.6 mm for all grooves. Front Beam, Wrangler AT/A is 49% improve and on rear Axle Wrangler AT/A is 25% better than boilerplate of competition, therefore averagely is 37% ameliorate than average of tested competitors. ————————————————————— Given higher up, Goodyear AT/A is at present the front end-runner in my mind to replace my stock tires. Tough as nails with good off-road manners. Pretty good on-road (but likely behind Michelin Defender). No fuel economy penalty for the most part (especially vs. other AT tires). __________________ My 2019 Country Cruiser 2022 Honda Ridgeline RTL-Due east 2015 Acura MDX with SH-AWD Lets Get Brandon! Last edited by Thai; 03-31-2019 at 10:52 AM.
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03-31-2019, 11:17 AM	#13
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Senior Member	It is on sale now on DTD so peradventure just get it already! __________________ 2018 TRD OP not-kdss, well armored, well used (6112s/650lb at 1.25"-1.5" lift, 8100 rear with Bilstein B12 1.5" springs, Mickey Thompson ATZ P3 LTE 265 seventy 17, RCI prepare of forepart 3/16 skids, Shrockworks step sliders and 3/xvi steel gas tank sideslip, C4Fab rear diff slip, Rockmen rear LCAs, Total Anarchy rear LCA bracket skids, Diode Dynamics SS3 white fog lights).
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03-31-2019, xi:27 AM	#xiv
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Aristocracy Member	Quote: Originally Posted by MAST4R It is on auction at present on DTD and then possibly only get it already! Unfortunately my stock tires are still new. __________________ My 2019 State Cruiser 2022 Honda Ridgeline RTL-Due east 2015 Acura MDX with SH-AWD Lets Get Brandon!
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05-xi-2019, 08:34 AM	#15
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